Month: October, 2011

Libra Sun, Scorpio Moon: The Smooth Talking Spy and the Deep Cover Diplomat (“Don’t let the sweet talk fool ya'”)

Combine the highly social, smoothly diplomatic ways of a Libra Sun with the covert instincts of a Scorpio Moon and you get a person who can thrive in artistic or social ventures (Libra) that require the native to walk through the valley of death (Scorpio). According to astrologers Charles and Suzi Harvey this is the combination of “. . . the blonde bombshell whose self-possession and sanguine smile says ‘don’t mess with me’.” (Source) Astrologer Jefferson Anderson observes that this pairing “possesses the style of the dove and the intensity of the hawk.” (Source) To illustrate: rapper Calvin Broadus Jr, best known as Snoop Dogg, is a Libra Sun, Scorpio Moon (Chart) Snoop’s combination of smooth, dove-like lyricism (Libra) and clandestine, hawk-like intensity (Scorpio) comes through with extreme clarity in the music video for the 1991 film Deep Cover, the video that launched his career. He’s obviously not an actual “blonde bombshell” but, even at a then 21 years old, his self-possessed demeanor definitely communicates that he is not one to be messed with:

According to Stella Hyde, Libras make for great lawyers and spin doctors who “can take any piece of info — especially the damaging kind — and spin it into a web of silken verbiage until it gleams” while Scorpio Moons are nourished by jobs such as Secret Agent and Vampire Slayer. (Source) The backstory to the Deep Cover theme is a vivid if potentially problematic example of this pairing’s capacity for spin doctoring (Libra) potentially damaging information about the slaying of a vampire (Scorpio Moon) until the resultant story sounds as smooth to the ear as silk feels to the touch. At the time “Deep Cover” was in the works, law enforcement officials were pursuing the group N.W.A. for their song “F*** tha’ Police” and rapper Ice-T for his song “Cop Killa”. Snoop knew that due to the fallout from these songs he would have to lawyerly spin doctor (Libra) Deep Cover’s storyline about the assassination of a corrupt undercover officer (Scorpio Moon) into subtle verbiage that would slip past the censors at MTV. A 1993 article in the New York Times explains how he did this:

Snoop’s vocal style is part of what distinguishes him: where many rappers scream, figuratively and literally, he speaks softly. Compare the treatment of the murder of a police officer in the song “Deep Cover,” from the soundtrack of the 1992 movie of that name, with that of Ice-T’s “Cop Killer.” Both songs gained popularity in the summer of 1992, but “Deep Cover” did not provoke the controversy “Cop Killer” did because of Snoop’s subtlety: to understand “Deep Cover’s” refrain — ” ‘cuz it’s one eight seven on a undercover cop” — one has to know that in Los Angeles police terminology the number 1-8-7 means homicide.

“It’s the way you put it down,” Snoop explains. “I put it down with a twist. Everybody in the whole world knew ‘Cop Killer’ meant kill a cop. And every policeman knows the municipal code is 187, but everybody in the whole world didn’t know that. (Source)

Obviously, few Libra/Scorpios will end up as rap musicians like Snoop. Nor will most hold opinions as controversial as those he expressed at the height of hip hop’s “gangsta’ rap” era. However, more than a few will find their lives characterized by subtle (Libra) layers of intrigue (Scorpio) not totally different from those described above. The fox who made his or her way into the hen house was likely a Libra/Scorpio.

Libra, the sign of social justice, is at its best when reconciling divisions between people. Ecologically, Scorpio is the energy of the composting process in which old death is transmuted into new life. Given the epidemic levels of death, decay, and social division now plaguing America, a Libra Sun, Scorpio Moon such as Snoop could be quite effective at navigating the current political landscape. Snoop as a political leader may sound a bit outlandish if you’ve seen some of his more irreverent performances – such as his brownie-baking appearance on Martha Stewart’s show. However here is a video of an older-and-wiser Snoop Dogg discussing politics with Larry King and doing so with both smooth aplomb and a tangible air of gravitas:

Even if Snoop has no desire to get into political leadership, he would likely excel in film roles of a much more intensely political nature than those he’s taken to date. Actors do best when their roles match the traits found in their astrological charts and Snoop happens to have the same Sun/Moon pairing as the Black Panther Party, the revolutionary African American social movement of the 1960s and 1970s. Using their establishment date of 10/15/66 as their date of birth, the Black Panthers are also a Libra Sun, Scorpio Moon. (Black Panthers’ Chart)

Jimmy Carter, the only U.S. president who has had the intestinal fortitude to tell Americans the truth about their oil predicament, is a Libra Sun, Scorpio Moon. (Source) Despite their radically different external appearances, Carter and Snoop actually have quite a few things in common. Carter got his start in government as a young naval officer navigating the clandestine underworld of the 1940s submarine wars. Snoop got his start in music as a young rapper navigating the clandestine underworld of the 1990s gangster rap wars. The two ecosystems aren’t as different as one might think. Both involve deadly underworlds where deciphering friend from foe and up from down requires deftly honed sensitivities – which is exactly what the Libra Sun, Scorpio Moon person is in possession of.

People remember Carter as the kindly peanut farmer president but the reality is he was as tough a customer as they come. Take a look at the calm (Libra) intensity (Scorpio) emanating from his eyes during his days as a young submarine warfare officer. Then compare that to the look emanating from Snoop’s eyes as a young artist navigating an ecosystem every bit as opaquely threatening as the depths of the North Atlantic sea during World War II:

Libra Sun, Scorpio Moon: This pairing excels at deftly navigating even the most deadly of ecosystems

In both men what you see is “the blonde bombshell whose self possession says don’t mess with me”, even though neither man is literally a “blonde bombshell.”

Carter told it like it was in regards to the geopolitics of U.S. oil dependency, the Black Panthers told it like it was in regards to econo-politics of the prison industrial complex, and Snoop has a reputation for telling it like it is in regards to the socio-politics of the music industry. (Source) That all three would share a reputation for unflinching honesty regarding issues of life-and-death is no surprise given their Sun/Moon pairing. At its most effective expression, the Libra Sun, Scorpio Moon individual can remain calm and diplomatic (Libra) during times of intense crisis and change (Scorpio).

About the Author: Matt Savinar is a California licensed attorney (State Bar #228957), voluntarily inactive as of June 2013. He can be reached for questions, comments, or consults at his contact page.

Five Great Examples of Super-Suave Libra Men at Their Finest

Looking for a man who knows how to dress well, smells nice, carries himself with grace, and is a natural at relating to others? Then you may want to consider a Libra, the sign of balance, harmony, and partnership. Check out the following examples of Libra men for a taste of what the seventh sign of the Zodiac has to offer:

#1) Miss Piggy Puts the Moves on Actor Roger Moore

Is it any surprise that an actor who portrayed super-smooth ladies-man James Bond more times (7) than any other Bond actor would have a Sun/Mars conjunction in Libra, the sign of the super-smooth ladies-man? (See Chart) It shouldn’t be as Libra is the Zodiac’s Olympic gold champion when it comes to being popular with the chosen gender. It’s also the sign most likely to already be in a relationship, as Miss Piggy found out when she put the moves on Roger Moore in this circa 1985 episode of The Muppets:

Miss Piggy shouldn’t give up on Roger just yet though. As Ren Alexander and Geraldine Rose explain in their book Seduction by the Stars, “Libra is the sign about which you can feel least morally squeamish when it comes to tossing your hat in the ring with a number of hats already lying there. Libra has an eye out for an improved version of their current partner.” (Source)

#2) Don Cornelius: So Cool the Man Could Freeze Hell Over

According to Sonya Magett and Rob Marriot, the authors of Astrology Uncut: The Street Smart Guide to the Stars, Libra is the “Finesse Pimp” of the zodiac, with a “Game Quotient” of 10 and a “Drama Quotient” of only 2. (Source) Is there any man in show business who more embodies the term “Finesse Pimp” than Don Cornelius of Soul Train fame? With both his Sun and Venus in this finesse-oriented sign, Cornelius is “so cool he could freeze hell over”, as one commenter said of this circa 1975 video:

The thing about Cornelius is he was much more than just the host of a popular television show. He was the founder of Soul Train, which was very much a pioneering project for its time. This is, again, an example of how signs always have a lot in common with their opposite sign. Aries is considered the trailblazer of the Zodiac but it was an uber-Libra like Don Cornelius who created a show as socially and musically trailblazing as Soul Train.

#3) Derek Jeter: A Super Smooth Libra Moon, On And Off the Field

With his Moon, Pluto, and Uranus in this stylish sign, it’s no wonder NY Yankess shortstop Derek Jeter has graced the covers of GQ, Vanity Fair, and dozens of other fashion magazines. Exuding the natural confidence Libra is known for, he was a perfect fit for the Gillette company’s 2008 “Staying Alive” campaign alongside golfer Tiger Woods, whose presence now only serves to highlight Jeter’s gentlemanly Libra demeanor:

Don’t think Jeter’s classy persona is just an act for the cameras. Even when mobbed by fans, Jeter is known for maintaining the grace you’d expect from somebody with a Moon/Pluto conjunction in smooth-as-silk Libra. As a writer for CBS News observed of Jeter when out in public, “In the time it takes him to order a java chip frappucino, Jeter poses for eight photos snapped by owners of camera phones, shakes five hands and signs seven autographs, never losing his gracious manner.” (Source)

#3) Snoop Dog and Buzz Aldrin Cut a Rap Album Together

As the sign most associated with an innate awareness of the other, a major theme for Libra is the concept of “social intercourse”. You will be hard pressed to find a better example of “social intercourse” then rapper Snoop Dog’s 2009 rap song collaboration effort with 80 year old former astronaut Buzz Aldrin, who Snoop nicknamed “Doc Renedevous”. (Source)

Perhaps not coincidentally, Buzz’s Moon is at 19 degrees Libra, conjunct Snoop’s Sun at 26 degrees Libra. In Western Astrology, a Sun/Moon conjunction between two individuals is considered a five star synastry contact, excellent for marriage or any other 1-to-1 partnership such as collaboration on a rap album.

#4) Bill Clinton Smacks Around Fox News Reporter Chris Wallace

Libra is known as the peacekeeper of the Zodaic but don’t let this fool you into thinking this sign can’t or won’t fight. Bill Clinton, for instance, is a Leo Sun but has Mars, Venus, Neptune, and his Ascendant all in Libra. Like many people with a Libra emphasis in their chart, Bill has been known expend so much energy trying to maintain that sense of balance that he eventually just snaps, as he did during this appearance with Fox News reporter Chris Wallace:

Of course it’s hard to talk about Bill Clinton without mentioning infidelity. While Libra is famously considered the sign of “balance”, it is also the sign that can balance multiple relationships behind your back while maintaining the appearance of an ideal marital union. As astrologer Stella Hyde writes of Sun/Mars conjunctions in Libra, like the one found in Bill’s chart, “if your Mars is in Libra as well as your Sun, you often find yourself with your pants down and in no position to fight.” (Source)

#5 Mohandas Gandhi: The Icon of Libran Values . . . but with a Scorpionic Twist

There are few, if any, individuals who better embody the highest expressions of the Libra archetype than Libra Sun Mohandas Gandhi. (See Chart) A lawyer and civil rights champion, Gandhi led India to independence from Britain by way of peaceful non-violence, the ultimate Libra value.

But life wasn’t all Libra sugar for Mr. Gandhi. According to his Wikipedia entry, Gandhi “was in his mid-30s and the father of five sons when he vowed celibacy and it became a continual trial. He was a great flirt and spent his life tempting fate. A long line of secretary-nurse-companions massaged him, bathed him and even slept with him to keep him warm.” (Source) Seems a rather peculiar path for a marriage-minded Libra but keep in mind the man did had Mars, Venus, and Mercury all in Scorpio – the sign most likely to congregate at the extremes of any human behavior bell curve. As always, a person is more than just their Sun sign, including lovely Libras.

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Copyright Matthew David Savinar, 2011

Venus Saturn Conjunction in Libra: Love Built to Last

We’re in the middle of a Venus/Saturn conjunction in Libra. Venus is the planet of love; Saturn is the planet of hard work, boundaries, and things built to last; Libra is the sign of one-to-one partnerships. Put the three together and the theme is “love built to last.”

This video of an older couple playing with their laptop’s webcam, not aware it was recording them, went viral a few weeks ago when Venus hit zero degrees Libra. Words don’t do its hilarity and sweetness justice other than to say it’s a really great example of the energy of a Venus/Saturn conjunction in Libra:

ABC News did an article on the couple and their video shortly after it first went viral: Elderly Couple Viral Video Sensations

As far as their signs/charts: I’d guess he’s either a Leo or has Leo emphasized in his chart. Leo is the entertainer of the Zodiac, known for its stage presence. I’d guess she is either a Taurus or has Taurus emphasized in her chart. Taurus is great with objects and quite pragmatic. While he is hamming it up for the camera she’s thinking about how to get the thing to actually work.

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Copyright Matthew David Savinar, 2011

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